1 00:00:02,923 --> 00:00:13,163 Are we ready as a society to discuss what the\h next steps are if we find life beyond earth? 2 00:00:13,163 --> 00:00:20,320 Hi, I'm Jim Green, Chief Scientist at NASA and this is\h Gravity Assist. On this season of Gravity Assist,\h\h 3 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:26,560 we're looking for life beyond Earth. I'm here\h with Dr. Steven Dick and he's an astronomer\h\h 4 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:34,720 an author and a historian of science - most noted\h for his work in the field of astrobiology. Steven\h\h 5 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:41,520 also has served as Chief Historian for NASA and\h he's been the Bloomberg Chair at the Library of\h\h 6 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:48,640 Congress in astrobiology. So, let's say if we find\h life beyond Earth, what do you think will be the\h\h 7 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:52,951 reaction by the public, and what will happen next?\h 8 00:00:52,951 --> 00:00:57,280 Uh, I usually put it in terms of world views. 9 00:00:57,280 --> 00:01:02,800 I think our cosmological worldview would change,\h our philosophical and theological worldviews would\h\h 10 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:10,160 change and our cultural worldviews would change.\h By cosmological, I mean that we will we will know\h\h 11 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:15,280 that we no longer live in a physical universe,\h entirely physical universe, where we are the only\h\h 12 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:20,560 kind of freak biology, the freak intelligence,\h that we live in what I call a biological universe.\h\h 13 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:28,080 Uh, and that, uh, you know, that makes a big\h difference for for our future, our sort of\h\h 14 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:33,200 human destiny. If you have a biological universe\h where we have to interact with intelligence.\h\h 15 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:38,480 So there's the cosmological aspect, then there's\h the philosophical and theological aspect.\h\h 16 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:46,240 If we engage with extraterrestrials, we will find\h out something about our own knowledge. Do they\h\h 17 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:50,000 know the same things that we know? Do they\h see the universe the same way that we do?\h\h 18 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:55,520 This is a big philosophical problem. Do we have\h objective knowledge? So that's a huge question in\h\h 19 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,640 philosophy. One of the points I like to make is it\h very much depends on what the discovery scenario\h\h 20 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:05,040 is. You know it's almost, it's almost meaningless\h to say what's the impact of discovering life.\h\h 21 00:02:05,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Are you talking about microbial life, or\h intelligent life, or intelligent life with\h\h 22 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,920 a signal, or with a signal that's deciphered\h and what do they say? Those are all different\h\h 23 00:02:13,920 --> 00:02:18,789 scenarios that you have to consider when you\h talk about what's the reaction going to be.